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[JOHN73]

Hi John, I am bored with you now...

If anyone wants sky tv in Spain feel free to get in contact, if anyone knows John (or knows him and constanly avoids him because he is BORING) please let us know....

Bye John Big Hug X

SKY TV IN SPAIN | SATELLITE TV SPAIN | FREE VIEW AND SKY HD you know it makes sense!

PS : Why don't you pop in your Local and tell them not to show the football on SKY?

PPS : If you want to meet up feel free to call me 618585051

So you accepted defeat and will continue your illegal activities until you get caught. Good man.

[JOHN73]

Meet up in person

Mr 618585051, is there any argument that you feel that you are not able to write on this forum? Or is it simply that you try to appear like a big brute that scare people into doing whatever you tell them to and that you know that you have no real basis for your arguments?

I would warn people against ever doing business with you, EVEN if your business was legal. You appear to be one of those who never give value for money and who think they can get away with intimidating and rough trade practises. Could it be that you are in Spain hiding from Her Majesty?

[Brindleboy123]

"LIAR" mmm that's your "opinion" let us not forget that it is the Law in Spain that a Landlord must provide and or allow the provision of television from the home country of a "long term" tenant sky is broadcast in Ireland, UK and Romania FACT, if you have a SKY box and sky card that have been manufactured by SKY then you are allowed to watch SKY FACT.

Re-broadcasting SKY is against the law

Paying SKY 58 euro a month for a sports package is NOT against the law.

What have you got John? or do you spend your nights in surfing the net? Having viewed all your posts you take me as being a "conspiracy theory" come "ex-police" or "Ex-prison service" know all...

"LIAR" thats charming!

Big hugs....

Not wishing to dwell on the point, I think you will find that your quote comes from the "Horizontal Law" and doesn´t actually state that everyone is entitled to receive broadcasts from their own country. That is a big difference from providing. Of course, if it were to "allow" it would have to be considered "legal".......!

[Chrisdee]

Intimidating? Ruff Trade practices? I do not think "Hugs and Kisses" are intimidating??? Big Brute??? what are you going on about?

Have spoken to webmaster of this forum about you and it appears that all you do is drone on and on (take a look at all of John's posts yawn......)

Get a life John or a small dog.

HANDS UP WHO ENJOYS WATCHING BRITISH TV IN SPAIN.

Big Hug XXX

PS : Does anyone else agree with Victor Meldrew oops sorry I mean John, that people should NOT be watching sky tv in Spain? If so would love to hear from you..

Of course most of us if not all of us like to watch British TV in Spain, not neccesarily Eastenders and Corrie although I do watch it occassionally but the thing is, it is illegal and I think that's the point John is trying to get across. Why would all these people be talking about if they hadn't had it in the first place, so they must have liked having it.
I know one things for sure, if it does come back, I won't moan about repeats ever again!

[JOHN73]

-sigh-

Intimidating? Ruff Trade practices? I do not think "Hugs and Kisses" are intimidating??? Big Brute??? what are you going on about?

Have spoken to webmaster of this forum about you and it appears that all you do is drone on and on (take a look at all of John's posts yawn......)

Get a life John or a small dog.

HANDS UP WHO ENJOYS WATCHING BRITISH TV IN SPAIN.

Big Hug XXX

PS : Does anyone else agree with Victor Meldrew oops sorry I mean John, that people should NOT be watching sky tv in Spain? If so would love to hear from you..

It seems that you know more about my opinions than I do. I have never stated what you say, I have simply tried to tell people that your services are illegal, and that they risk loosing all their money without getting anything, worst case problems with the law.

The fact that you like to watch British TV does not change this. Neither does it change the fact that you are using this forum to promote your illegal services (which would make the owner of this forum an accessory to the crime if like you indicate he knows it).

What is true is that I have repeated my points every time someone has asked a question. Strange, isn't it?

I continue to warn people against using services that are illegal. It would be very sad if dishonest people get away with stealing money because of the current situation with regards to English TV on the Costa.

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And yes, they way you try to attack my personality and not my opinions, and completely fail to put up good arguments and only use childish remarks to try to discredit me (you really discredit yourself by doing that), is the way you expect a brute with a white van on the run from former customers to behave. Especially when supported by some weird talk about wanting to meet up to settle it. Perhaps you should think about that? Your mates might use you anyhow, but I strongly doubt that others would if they see how you behave in a discussion.

[JOHN73]

Lets sort it out

Why don't we put it to the test. I'll contact the Guardia Civil and we'll see what happens.

[JOHN73]

Great idea John! Why not simply type in "Is SKY TV illegal in Spain?" into Google or Yahoo and read what is said! You can then refer and post your findings and then anyone reading your posts can check for themselves.

Just face facts it is NOT illegal to receive sky tv on your own sky box using your own dish. FACT It is however against SKY terms & conditions so at best you would be "In breach of contract" if you want to go and waste Police time that is up to you.

I cannot understand what your agenda is here John?

Must dash watching "Family Guy"

PS : Can moderator check ip address for JohnH who started thread as I think JOHN73 is the same person...(weird)

JohnH and JOHN73 is not the same person. Why would I use two handles?

You are right that I think it is a waste of Police Resources. However I think it is the thing the Police here likes doing.

Just to follow your own line of arguments: Selling something against the terms and conditions of the supplier is ok? Selling something that isn't yours?

Perhaps someone can sell me your company, house and white van for a euro. Someone who doesn't own it, is not authorized to do so, but know where they are?

[JOHN73]

Tell you what John it's been a long day shall we agree to disagree?

Sleep well.

[john H]

My original message was a concern whether there was a possibility of receiving British tv here on the Costa blanca. As a Telemicro customer of 8 years it was disturbing to say the least that the tv brodcast was taken away and yes I acknowledge that the broadcast was "illegal" and ultimately the Spanish authorities were likely to act. However it still does not dimish the lose to many households of losing their "British tv" John73 and Skytvinspain have had a real verbal contest and I can assure skytvinspain that I am nothing to do with John73. I only want to return to a situation where I can receive british tv. As far as I understand the outcome of my orginal thread is that any company that rebroadcasts certain channels is in breach of Spanish legislation does this include Superbeam/Torresat? The one option that apparently elimanates the need to use these potentially illegal transmissions is to get yr own satellite dish. There lies the crunch! What reliable companies are there providing theses dishes? From all accounts the cost for provision and installation of a 1.9/2m dish is in the region of 1000€. Is this cost reasonable or is it once again the scenario of british run companies once again making a "killing" at the expense of expats? I am sure many people do not mind paying reasonable costs in the provision of a satillite dish but the thought always remains that once again we are being taken for a ride!! Can anyone recommend a company that provides a satellite dish at a resonable cost and where the workmanship is of a high standard or is that a request that is a "step to far"?

[Nalle]

Again John "What should people do that want to watch British TV in Spain?"

and

"DO YOU HAVE SKY TV?"

Are you telling me that people came to Spain to wathc british TV?
Sounds pretty daft to me.

[Nalle]

Great idea John! Why not simply type in "Is SKY TV illegal in Spain?" into Google or Yahoo and read what is said! You can then refer and post your findings and then anyone reading your posts can check for themselves.

Just face facts it is NOT illegal to receive sky tv on your own sky box using your own dish. FACT It is however against SKY terms & conditions so at best you would be "In breach of contract" if you want to go and waste Police time that is up to you.

I cannot understand what your agenda is here John?

Must dash watching "Family Guy"

PS : Can moderator check ip address for JohnH who started thread as I think JOHN73 is the same person...(weird)

But would it be legal to SELL sky boxes in Spain?

[Chrisdee]

Are you telling me that people came to Spain to wathc british TV?
Sounds pretty daft to me.

That's not the reason I came to Spain, of course not, but I do enjoy the British TV, I have watched Spanish comedy and found it so not my taste.
Normally there are not enough hours in the day but there are times I have a few hours spare and I like to relax in front of the TV. I've also found the Spanish football coverage not as good as the Sky coverage. Not really daft, if it's something you enjoy.

[Nalle]

I know (or at least I hope) that people didnt come to Spain to watch Sky.
My comment was directed to skytvinspain who seems to think that if people cant get sky, its the end of the world.
I agree with you that the Spanish TV is crap, with a few exeptions. way to much ads etc etc.
Prefer watching footie on C+ rather than sky though, but then again, Im more into La liga than premiership.
Im sure a an italian would prefer watching Italian football on Italian TV

[Warrior]

EU Directive 89/552/EEC Television without Frontiers

I know but he is so anoying... The position is this;

The Spanish Goverment asked SKY to pay a telephone number size a year fee to broadcast in Spain, and SKY said "NO"

Canal+ has paid the FA a stack of cash for exclusive broadcasting rights in Spain, Canal+ is NOT happy that;

A : Most British bars have sky not Canal+

B : Companies are re-broadcasting sky signals (this is very bad)

C : Most British households are receiving sky tv from privately owned satellite dishes and receivers.

When people say it is "illegal" to receive sky tv in Spain where is this Law written? and if it is so "illegal" how comes re-broadcasters have been paying tax's and national insurance to the Goverment?

Yes SKY say that you are not allowed to receive sky outside of UK or Ireland but who really cares? just because Sky say you cannot does not make it "illegal" does it? For something to be "illegal" there must be a "Law" and despite what John is saying there is NO LAW in Spain that says "you cannot receive sky tv in Spain"

There is a Law in Spain however that states that it is illegal to receive and re-broadcast television and or radio programmes without permission (understandable) this law is similar to the protection that books and magazine's have (copyright)

If you read the story : TELEMICRO FIASCO IN TORREVIEJA | BRITISH TV LOST | TORREVIEJA MICROWAVE SATELLITE TV TELEMICRO CLOSED IN TORREVIEJA

and RTN Costa Blancas Free Newspaper - Round Town News?-?RTN Costa Blancas Free Newspaper - Round Town News you will see that the reporter states that "This does NOT affect sky tv that is received legitimately" that means you have paid for a genuine sky box an sky card and if you have extra channels such as sky sports or movies that you pay your subscriptions.

I hope that the above gives a clear picture and should anyone have proof that the Spanish Goverment say it is illegal to receive sky tv in Spain in a residential home I will eat my laptop.. (lol)

Just found this on Yahoo:

Best Answer - Chosen by Asker
The Spanish Government wanted to charge Sky a fee to allow Sky to transmit in Spain. Sky refused to pay so they can't be seen to be openly allowing the use of Sky in Spain. That said lots of Brits have Sky sets in Spain and I suspect that Sky are not to worried about that because each Sky box earns them money, whether it be in the UK or Spain.

Don't worry the Spanish have more important things to worry about that Brits watching Sky TV and it is common place for Brits to have sky in Spain. Enjoy your holiday and your TV.
2 weeks ago

also found this :

Re: Legal or Not,Sky TV

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It depends by what you mean by legal.

It is certainly not a criminal offence either under UK or Spanish law.

You can do what you like with a Sky box - the issue is what you do with a Sky card. When you apply for a Sky card you sign a contract where you agree not to use the card outside the UK. If you do, then you are in breach of contract with Sky and that is a civil offence. However, if they find out, Sky will not sue you, they will terminate the contract under the conditions laid down in the contact and deactivate your card.

Using a Sky card and rebroadcasting the Sky subscription channels is another matter and is a criminal offence in the UK and in Spain. In fact there is a big purge on this at the moment - there were 85 arrests across Spain in the last week involving not just Sky but other pay channels.

I quote directly as follows:
"Member States must ensure freedom of reception and they may not restrict retransmission on their territory of television programmes from other Member States."
and, in the revised directive of June 1997:
"Events of major importance for society ( such as sporting events): the revised directive allows events which are considered to be of major importance for society to be broadcast freely to the public. Each Member State may therefore draw up a list of events which have to be broadcast in unencoded form, even if exclusive rights have been purchased by pay-TV channels."
So it´s alright John it´s not illegal in fact it´s our God (well EEC!) given right.
Hell if we were Spanish there would be riots in the streets,
"Give us our LEGAL TV back and stuff Rupert Murdoch"

[john H]

Nalle's words of wisdom

What a wonderful intellectual contribution by our friend Nalle to a very simple question I posed of how I could possibly receive British tv (not necessarily sky tv). He has clearly lived in Spain for several years and is fluent in the language and so watching Spanish tv must really excite him. I certainly have not come to Spain on the understanding that I would be able to watch english tv but having watched it for eight years I do feel a little annoyed that it is no longer availble to me. I do miss Panorama/Question time and many other programmes that the BBC provided and no I am not a sky sports fanatic as he implies all expats are.