Bar Noise in Quesada

[6mauledrv]

I seem to remember that last year we had a ban on music coming out of pubs - it was great!
This year, the noise is back on again, starting off gently at 9pm and reaching a voluminous crescendo at midnight.
I have nothing against pubs entertaining their clients but I do resent owners insisting that their noise ( and that's exactly what it is) is broadcast over a 1 mile radius.
We have the DJ's who play the same stuff every Saturday and the up and coming new singing stars who fancy themselves at karaoke.
If only these people could hear themselves. Total failures and an absolute annoyance to local residents.
What are the current laws regarding level of noise and where does one make a complaint?
Does anyone think I'm being unreasonable?

[JOHN73]

I think they are too strict!

I seem to remember that last year we had a ban on music coming out of pubs - it was great!
This year, the noise is back on again, starting off gently at 9pm and reaching a voluminous crescendo at midnight.
I have nothing against pubs entertaining their clients but I do resent owners insisting that their noise ( and that's exactly what it is) is broadcast over a 1 mile radius.
We have the DJ's who play the same stuff every Saturday and the up and coming new singing stars who fancy themselves at karaoke.
If only these people could hear themselves. Total failures and an absolute annoyance to local residents.
What are the current laws regarding level of noise and where does one make a complaint?
Does anyone think I'm being unreasonable?

I think they are too strict on noise in Quesada. If you move close to a pub, you should have known about it when you moved there. If a new pub is being put up, you should have protested against it before it opened.

If it is a weekend or fiesta, I think it is ok that people keep it going till 02-03 at night, else, I think 23-24 would be a good time to "go more quiet".

However if you call the Policia Local and complain about noise in Quesada, they'll come right away. I would not be surprised if very few actually has their entertainment license in order. Sounds like hefty fines.

[Chrisdee]

From John73 - If a new pub is being put up, you should have protested against it before it opened.

How do you go about that? Around where I live a whole commercial centre gets put up, all vacant for a while then the signs go up of what's going to be there. I don't know how you would find out what it's going to be until it's too late.

[JOHN73]

From John73 - If a new pub is being put up, you should have protested against it before it opened.

How do you go about that? Around where I live a whole commercial centre gets put up, all vacant for a while then the signs go up of what's going to be there. I don't know how you would find out what it's going to be until it's too late.

I think they have to put up notices at the premisses and inform their neighbours like you have to in the UK.

[Chrisdee]

Notices on premises

I think they have to put up notices at the premisses and inform their neighbours like you have to in the UK.

That's what you would think but I'm sure that's not the case, I would like to know. All you seem to see are the signs saying that the premises are for rent and the next moment (if the owners are lucky) they are fitted out and are up and running.
Anybody out there know if notices get put up of what the premises are intended for?

[Britbuild]

That's what you would think but I'm sure that's not the case, I would like to know. All you seem to see are the signs saying that the premises are for rent and the next moment (if the owners are lucky) they are fitted out and are up and running.
Anybody out there know if notices get put up of what the premises are intended for?

It doesn't happen and it is NOT a requirement. A commercial centre is built to house all types of business. There is usually no restriction on what can be opened there, and planning permission is granted based upon the paperwork and projects produced by the architect, not upon local or domestic considerations.There is no requirement to inform anyone of the proposed business.

This I know because I have worked on numerous commercial ventures. In fact the architect I use actually works in the local authority planning department, so he can virtually grant his own permission for the project.

There are also no building inspectors in Spain, so no one ever checks to see if the construction is to regulations, apart from the architect who made the plans, and he would normally sign the building off as complete without even inspecting it. Thats why you see so much shoddy work over here.

[Chrisdee]

It doesn't happen and it is NOT a requirement. A commercial centre is built to house all types of business. There is usually no restriction on what can be opened there, and planning permission is granted based upon the paperwork and projects produced by the architect, not upon local or domestic considerations.There is no requirement to inform anyone of the proposed business.

This I know because I have worked on numerous commercial ventures. In fact the architect I use actually works in the local authority planning department, so he can virtually grant his own permission for the project.

There are also no building inspectors in Spain, so no one ever checks to see if the construction is to regulations, apart from the architect who made the plans, and he would normally sign the building off as complete without even inspecting it. Thats why you see so much shoddy work over here.

Ummmm, that's interesting, can't believe they don't have some kind of inspector to check out the building work. Unbelievable.

[WENDY G]

Quesada is strict about music noise etc the pubs have licenses for music Thursday Friday and Saturday until midnight, I believe these only last until September then they will probably lose them again until next year.

[Chrisdee]

Suppose it is a case of calling the police then when you think the noise is too loud. I know my neighbour (Spanish) called the police when some people were having a party across the road because they thought it was too loud and also gone midnight, about 1am I think, the police came pretty quickly and the noise apparently did quiten down. I knew they were having a party because I saw these massive speakers going into their garden and extra tables and chairs previously in the afternoon, we just moved into another bedroom out the back as it doesn't happen often. People should be allowed parties and it's a case of give and take. I certainly wouldn't want to live opposite or anywhere too close to a pub. it must be awful.

[6mauledrv]

I think they are too strict on noise in Quesada. If you move close to a pub, you should have known about it when you moved there. If a new pub is being put up, you should have protested against it before it opened.

If it is a weekend or fiesta, I think it is ok that people keep it going till 02-03 at night, else, I think 23-24 would be a good time to "go more quiet".

However if you call the Policia Local and complain about noise in Quesada, they'll come right away. I would not be surprised if very few actually has their entertainment license in order. Sounds like hefty fines.

It so happens that in my part of Quesada, houses were put up long before the English bars came along. So your initial comments are nonsense.
The point is - why should I (and other residents around me) be subjected to this horrible noise each week. If I want to partake, I'll go along and join in but don't force it upon me.
Bar owners are utterly selfish and unfortunately the authorities are often reluctant to intervene. There's no problem with fiestas - they're a traditional spanish thing and we accept them.
I'll be going to visit the Grip offices next week to see if I can extract more info from them.
I'll update this forum, if necessary.

[Nalle]

There are also no building inspectors in Spain, so no one ever checks to see if the construction is to regulations, apart from the architect who made the plans, and he would normally sign the building off as complete without even inspecting it. Thats why you see so much shoddy work over here.

Thats not true. When you build something a building inspector from the townhall will inspect the building and make sure its up to regulations. After that inspection then you can get the "final de obra" and with that "la cedula".